Posts by Vernon Williams

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To Narkisis

by Vernon Williams in

nark,.

i have a question for you (and, anyone interested):.

the jews, if i am correct, counted a "day" as 24 hours from sunset to sunset.. jesus was reserected sometime after sundown on saturday night.. he was to be in the grave three days.. if we back up three days, it means jesus died before sundown on wed. not friday.. they wanted him dead before the sabbath.

Vernon Williams

I do not know if a "rolling sabath" exists. This was a term a friend of mine told me as explained by his pastor. I thought Nark might know. I need to look up the scriptures you mentioned....

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To Narkisis

by Vernon Williams in

nark,.

i have a question for you (and, anyone interested):.

the jews, if i am correct, counted a "day" as 24 hours from sunset to sunset.. jesus was reserected sometime after sundown on saturday night.. he was to be in the grave three days.. if we back up three days, it means jesus died before sundown on wed. not friday.. they wanted him dead before the sabbath.

Vernon Williams

nvr,

We are having this dignified, all "spiritual-eeee" discussion and you post something that, in my mind, conjurs up the thoughts of a beautiful Cuban girl rolling a cigar on a firm, bronzed thigh while a gentle breeze pushes thick, black hair back off a slightly damp brow....

Shame on you!

Twice, shame on you! (and, I do not, even, like cigars...)

Ok, Nark....we can proceed.....

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To Narkisis

by Vernon Williams in

nark,.

i have a question for you (and, anyone interested):.

the jews, if i am correct, counted a "day" as 24 hours from sunset to sunset.. jesus was reserected sometime after sundown on saturday night.. he was to be in the grave three days.. if we back up three days, it means jesus died before sundown on wed. not friday.. they wanted him dead before the sabbath.

Vernon Williams

Nark,

Thank you for your explanation: forgive me....I am lost...

The notions of "three days and three nights" in the grave and "resurrected on the third day" are mutually exclusive regardless of the Gospel narratives, and are best explained as literary allusions, respectively to Jonah and Hosea.

What does the phrase "mutually exclusive" mean?

Jesus was very specific about the "three day" concept: "....tear it down and it will be rebuilt in three days..."

This is a seventy two hour period. He does not sound as if he is referencing an "allusion" as he is so specific.

I have ask several about this and all, pastors included, just blow it off.

Were there "rolling sabaths" or "festival days" that would have had the same wording?

What is the connection in all this between the Passover and the weekly Sabbath?

Forgive me...in the are of figuring time: years of kings, chronology, stuff like this: my mind goes into lock up. I am, ususally, above average in figuring out anything in writing (factoring in my lack of education as I am, mostly, self taught), however, this area is a big, big exception.

Thank you for sorting out my ramblings.

Yours in this specific struggle,

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To Narkisis

by Vernon Williams in

nark,.

i have a question for you (and, anyone interested):.

the jews, if i am correct, counted a "day" as 24 hours from sunset to sunset.. jesus was reserected sometime after sundown on saturday night.. he was to be in the grave three days.. if we back up three days, it means jesus died before sundown on wed. not friday.. they wanted him dead before the sabbath.

Vernon Williams

Nark,

I have a question for you (and, anyone interested):

The Jews, if I am correct, counted a "day" as 24 hours from sunset to sunset.

Jesus was reserected sometime after sundown on Saturday night.

He was to be in the grave three days.

If we back up three days, it means Jesus died before sundown on Wed. NOT Friday.

They wanted him dead before the Sabbath. The Sabbath is Sat.

The best explanation I have heard, IF it is true, is:

Not only did the Jews have the sabbath as Sat, but, they, also, had "rolling Sabbaths" and, when Jesus died, Thursday was one of these.

Any thoughts?

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To Narkisis

by Vernon Williams in

nark,.

i have a question for you (and, anyone interested):.

the jews, if i am correct, counted a "day" as 24 hours from sunset to sunset.. jesus was reserected sometime after sundown on saturday night.. he was to be in the grave three days.. if we back up three days, it means jesus died before sundown on wed. not friday.. they wanted him dead before the sabbath.

Vernon Williams

I posted a thread for you, if you have the time.

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Outa here

by snarf in

jw
friends

it seems you have to be of the "popular crowd" on this forum to express feelings and views.

as i am not of this crowd, i have recently recieved alot of not so friendly comments and p.m.s from people who seem to think they need to put me in my place.

it is funny how some people can express their views and opinions and everyone still loves them.

Vernon Williams

Snarf,

I remember reading one post of yours that was a bit non-sympathetic....however, you were, probaboly, correct. I am not too intuitive....

I would hope you would reconsider and stay. A spiceless meal is pretty bland. And, I did not read the "lie" thread.

In any event, either way, best wishes,

Take care,

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The simplest explanation of 607 BCE

by Doug Mason in

if you are looking for the simplest picture that shows how the wts calculates that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, and if you want to understand basic problems with their method, this might be what you want.. http://au.geocities.com/doug_mason1940/wts_false_reasoning_for_607_bce.pdf.

(make sure that your pdf reader displays the whole page.).

doug.

Vernon Williams

Doug and JW,

Thank you, very much, for this fine information.

Yours,

V

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Have you ever thought of killing someone?

by John Doe in

jw
friends

have you ever had enough contempt for someone to consider doing such a thing?

Vernon Williams

It is scary to think how easy suicide is to contemplate in a calm manner....

Been there a couple of times,

Not now,

I take it damn seriously when it is mentioned on this board...I think we all do....too many have been in that spot of meditation.

Love you guys,

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New Here, just want to introduce myself....

by lies all lies in

jw
friends

hi everyone, i never was baptized but studied for a very long time before i finally got my sanity back and realized that although the individual jws for the most part were good people and doing what they thought was right the org itself was total b.s.

anyway ive been lurking here off and on for a while and figured i would stop being lazy and register.

so hello, i enjoy everyones posts and hope to be around for a while!